Posted by: Johan Normark | March 20, 2011

2012: The Maya meetings 2011

This year’s Maya meetings will cover the 2012 phenomenon. I will not be able to attend it but I wish I could hear David Stuart’s paper on the cyclical structure of the Long Count calendar. However, I guess this will covered in his upcoming book The Order of Days. He suggests that “the larger “Grand Long Count” is, even in its largest scale, not quite the linear reckoning system we’ve long assumed. The one-directional flow of the Maya Long Count is, I argue, embedded within a complex cyclical structure that’s never been accurately described, where the pivotal “Creation” day of comes to be repeated on many occasions, over eons and eons in the future. The “true” significance of the upcoming 2012 date will be explored based on this novel understanding of Maya mathematics, as well an examination of relevant ancient texts.”


  1. I am certain that something huge will happen in 2012.I don’t believe it will be the end of the world as such,just a new way of thinking,being.

  2. I have a question. People are somehow trying to link the long count calendar with a solar year, saying that it makes their calendar more accurate than ours. They are doing it by taking two digits from the long count and dividing them. Is there any evidence, first of all, that the Maya used decimals? Second, is there any evidence that they used division? Third, did they account for leap years by adding an entire month to their calendar every so many years, making it more accurate than our solar calendar?

  3. The Long Count and the solar calendar are completely different ways of recording time. Both are based on the day (k’in) as the minimal unit. There are no fractions of the day recorded in the inscriptions and the Maya did not use decimals (or vigesimals since they used 20 as their base). There are indications that they sometimes referred to day and night time but these are not related to any measurable temporal sequences. See my post on when the day began:

    The Classic period Long Count did not allow for any leap years as did their haab cycles. It continued to be 365 days and hence its units of 20 days came out of phase every 80th year. The Maya appears to have cared little about this. See my earlier posts on Aldana’s correlation discussion: [part 1 to part 8]


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